. >> how has president obama described this war? >> when i think of afghanistan, i think the 14-year-old girl that the taliban shot because she wanted girls to go to school. i think we will get out of there and we stick to the president's timetable and get out in an orderly fashion, not the end of next year but the end of 2014. >> the president you currently admire, he deemed the war on afghanistan a war of necessity unquote. is it still a war of necessity? >> it was a war of necessity when we went in. it was bungled early on. and a lot of people paid the price. no not a happy story. >> do you think the president should pull the forces out? >> yes, we are there because we have been there. it is a ridiculous continuation. putting american soldiers at risk. the afghanis are just as dangerous to us now as were any one of the rebel groups. i think pat was right, at one point we thought this would be a haven for al qaeda and that's why we went in there, but i don't think that's an issue anymore that should justify what we're doing. it is